Thursday, September 16, 2010

Findchua 2

Findchu or Finncua*

After Findchua had helped the south O Neill, Brega and Meith dispose of the British pirates on the request of Ronan the Fair son of his sister Coimel by Findlog ,the Fer Breg of Magh Laine, he was rewared with Dun Dubchomair and the kings drinking horn covered in red gold given ever 7th year by the king of Meath [Mide].
He blessed the O Niall clanns and the men of Meath and returned to his own place.


A war arose in Leinster in his time where old Nuada the Sage was king.
This king had 2 queens.
Aife ingen Ros Failge and Anmet ingen Colman m Chrimthain of Ui Cennselaigh.

The king loved Anmet more than Aife who was with child.

The daughter of hi Cennselaigh wanted this child given her and the king promised her that but he instead sent Aife away to Munster to Findchua at Slaib Cua for protection as Findchua was feared by host and multitudes and champions and battle solders for his greatness.

The girl took her way to Munster with 3 men and 9 women in their chariots and when they came to the ford west of the Mag Maistertha the shaft of Aifes chariot broke at and place now called
Ath in Carpait.

They mended the shaft however it broke again at Druim Letha and Cell Droma where labor passed over the young woman.

Findchua is told this as he is in his cold water bath.

He sends his messanger to tell her to stay where she is till she has this child.

She brings forth a boy early in the morning and the child taken from her to Findchua where he is baptized and named Finntan son of Nuada Sage m Bresal Brecc m Finacha Fobrecc and the child than reared by Findchua .
The mother Aife* warned to go to her own country which is Ros Failge.

The babe thrives under Findchua's care better than he would of his own mother or with 9 wet nurses.

A war again in east Leinster made by Cennselach m Dunlang m Dunadach.
Old Nuada the sage king and Druid advised them toseek out
Findchua of Bri Gobann at Sliab Cua a valiant warrior who had a son of his.
The king states this warrior is fond of Himself because of this son Finntan the child of Aife.
He sent 9 poets to the river east of Findchuas church.

He was told of the arrival while in his cold tub bath and he directed these not to come to him till his bathing was done.

They were all angry at this the poets as they could not cross the river without permission.
This the Struth na Eces and Findchua was angry at them for being angry.

They requested his help and he gave it.

He took with him to Leinster a crowd of clerics and the kings son and the poets to the Rig fort above the Barrow river.

The king Nuada was glad to greet them both and paid particular attention to his littele son.

He findchua told the king to send Cennselach a present of peace and if it were refused to proclaim battle against him.

Cennselach would not accept the peace offering and planned the distruction of the Rig Lis on the Barrow River on the morrow.
The battalions were arranged.

Leisnter v Cennselach and Findchua arose fiercely and boldly in his territory and race and he seized Censelaghs host and left them unable to strike a blow.

Findchu claimed the God hostages and pledges for the king of Leinster.
Cennselach refused and the battle was joined and all Cennselach's royal princes were slain except himself.

50 sons of kings were taken to the fortress of Barrow ,DinnRigh ,Fort of Kings it is still called.

Cennselach gave ownership of his clann and his race and his children to Findchua.
100 of every kind of cattle every 7th year to Findchua and his
successors from Leinster and from Hui Cennselach continually.

Findachua consents to leave Fintan with his father the king in Leinster and blesses the boy.
And also his to chose between the life of a layman or a cleric.
The boy choses the cleric life.

Findchua gives the boy land at Cluan IrarRois Eidnech.

After these deals he returns to his abode in Munster.

REd Fist [Ruad Dorn] M Scannlan m Dunadach, king of Ulaid and his consort Moingfinn, ingen Daire m Finnchad of Munstertells the king
She wants the kingship of Munster for her sons Cas, Cian, and Cingid.

This diabolical temptation is accepted by Ruad Dorn for his wife and the unjust cause is told to Findcua.

Findchua warns this king not to come to Munster as he does not want this king to be killed in Mumna provence.

But the woman kept urging and the men of Ulaid marched till they came to Mairtine Mor Mumna unbeknowst to the king of Munster.

There the Ulaid set up camps on Ard na RighRaide, Cnoc Samna.

The king of Munster Cathal m Aed Flann Cathrach and his consort Mumna ingin Fiachra were living at Dun Eochair Maige and when they got up in the morn they behled the flags and standards and splended banners on Cnoc na Righraide and the royal speckeled tents of the Ulaid king pitched on the hill.

The king sent messages to find out who was abiding on this hill.

He was told the king of Ulaid and the daughter of Daire who came to seek the kingship of Munster for her sons.

The king henceforth with his council and nobles sent for the slaughter warrior to the south Findchua of Bri Gobann.

He would bring with him his cennchatach. His own crozier .

so Ger and Tualaing and Turscur the kings gillies and Finchua drove in his carpairt [chariot] to Dun Eochair Maige the homested of Cathal m Aed king of Munster province.

Cathal asked Findchu to send a message to the king of Ulaid ,Eochu Ruad Dorn that he Eochu had no natural right to Munster and it would not be given him.

Moingfinn however recognized Findchua and told her 3 sons to pretend a quarrel to get the cleric to come and separate them that the 3 might kill Findchua.
Findchua however percieved this deceptive behavior and the priest sent to the king of Ulaid was not accepted and he was angred by this people.


Findchua went in the vanguard ,the front of the battle, his cenn cathach ie: his crosier in hand before him and went thrice round the host from the deiseal [right].
The Ulaid forces roared and bellowed and charged from the hill and Findchua took the slope beyond and when the Ulaid battalion had begun its decent from their hill and were on their knees he broke the battle on them and hence forward the Munstermen were able to defend forigners and every host when they were charging down a hill.

At the charge the king of Ulaid and his wife and the 3 sons fell and died and their graves are on this hill after them.



Seven battles have I fought--
I am Findchua without discrace--
From the battle of Dun Dubchomair
To the battle of Finntracht Cian Magair.

A battle at Tara I delivered,
A battle in Leinster, with my devotion,
A battle in middle Munster,
I gave it without danger.

The contentious battle of Loch Cenn
Against the clanns of Niall without discrace;
The renowned battle of Cruachan Ai
It brake before me.

My fight against Momonians,
With Aed'sd son, with my miracles,
My battles for the mindful,
Most to reckon them in their sevens.

To Rome of Latium in my pilgrimage,
On the road of Peter and Paul,
In Bronaid's monastery
I have been reckoned in their sevens.

After several more battles Findchu returned to his own residence at Femoy and then went to Rome on pilgrimage repentant of his deeds and battles he had done for friendship and the brotherhood.

There he sang these staves before he died a year later in repentance which he himself wrote in the
Book of the Monastery of Buite m Bronach.


The friar Buagachain wrote this life from the Book of Monsterboice.

Whereabouts now unknown.

* A geneology for the Finnloga indicates a decent from Ruid Ruide the GReat of 67 BC through 4 derbfiens to Finntan .
Fionnfinn M Cumail the 5th or great great grandson of FionnLoga beginning a new derbfine.

This continuing through Lugaid Riab n Derg.

The time period for the first derbfien of FionnLoga runs from about 50BC to 50AD for Fintan.

The second derbfine beginning with FionnFinn would occur around 100 AD and contine to 200 AD.

This time does not correspond with the times given in AD for the decendants of Lugaid R n D covering the revolt of the atti cotti and the return of Tuathal Teachmair the last holder of this derbfien right.

Tuathal is the beginning of the christain time period being Tauthal the Acceptable part scot, listed as ruling in 79 AD not the 300 that would continue in the old time line.

Tuathas child Feidlimid Reactmair would be the new derbfine. His son Conn of the hundred battles.[ conn may indicate the next derfine of 100 years not the mac of reachmair but the maic]

Lugaid Riab n Derg m Finnemas m Eocaid Feidnolac m FionnFinn m Fintan m FinnGoll m FinnLug m FionnLoga m Ruidruide the Great, Ri Ulaid



Judi Donnelly
copyright 15 September 2010

sourse: the antecdota
Lives of the Saints #5, Book of Lismore, Whitley Stokes DCL. Oxford, 1890

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